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Post by 5abikuri10 on Mar 28, 2008 11:20:12 GMT -5
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Post by 5abikuri10 on Mar 28, 2008 11:26:13 GMT -5
thas soo disgusting
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Post by adman on Mar 28, 2008 16:06:47 GMT -5
human chimpanzee breeding would be even more successfull
wait
been done
eichman
never mind
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Post by adman on Mar 28, 2008 17:39:09 GMT -5
If a human and a monkey were to mate would it be possible for there to be offspring?
Wow! What a question! But it certainly is something that has been wondered about before. No, I don't think it has ever happened. There have been many rumors about that sort of thing happening and there have been fraudulent circus demonstrations, like ‘Oliver’. Nothing like that has ever turned out to be valid. I’ll get to the scientific reasons later.
Why? Because if it had happened, we would have heard about it. Yes, there is something called bestiality. And yes, with monkeys too, but if human-chimp crosses (the chimpanzee is the closest relative to humans) had ever worked, at any time down through the ages, we would have heard about it. And then it would have been done again, and there would be all these human-chimp progeny somewhere. But there aren't. I interpret this lack of evidence as proof that it does not happen. True, this is inductive logic. A proof from lack of evidence is weaker than a positive result, but is further strengthened by the following scientific information.
To start with, in the test tube, human sperm don't bind to the receptors on a chimp egg. And even if they did, or you used in vitro fertilization to directly inject the sperm into the egg, the chromosomes wouldn't pair up. Humans have 46 chromosomes while the other apes have 48 chromosomes. Sometime, way back when, on the way to Homo sapiens, the monkey chromosomes 11 and 12 fused to form what is now human chromosome 2. There are also eight major inversions in human chromosomes when you try to match them up with chimp chromosomes. Chromosome pairing is necessary for fertilization and the development of the egg.
Which brings up the question, after the first chromosome 2 fusion occurred, how did it get passed on? Chromosome events like these often (but not always) tend to reduce fertility, although viability may be unchanged (or even improved). These low probability events can be fixed, especially in small inter-breeding populations. But after many changes have occurred between the chromosomes, the possibility of interbreeding ceases, and a new species has been created. As a matter of fact, loss of ability to interbreed is one of the functional definitions of a species.
Horses and donkeys make mules. But horses and donkeys are close enough to make a viable, although infertile hybrid. In captivity, lions and tigers can make ligers and tiglions (depending upon who is the father), but these crosses are also infertile. True, all sorts of weird cell hybrids have been made in tissue culture. But when nuclei from different species try to pair up and the chromosomes don't pair, chromosomes are thrown out, and no individual will be able to develop from this. You may have heard that a human nucleus was recently used to replace the nucleus of a cow's egg. Some cow genes may remain but it's not a combination of human and cow chromosomes.
And people are working on transgenic hybrids between humans and pigs, for instance. This way, organs with human antigens can be grown in pigs. And attempts are being made to produce monkeys, etc, with human genes inserted into cells which will allow them be used a subjects for AIDS and other disease research. Many amazing things are coming. But not direct monkey- human hybrids. However, to paraphrase Arthur C. Clarke, "when a scientist says something will never happen, he’s very probably wrong". Who knows what the future will bring – ethical questions aside. But, up to now, there have been no monkey-human hybrids. That’s what I think.
Mike Conrad.
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Post by tac on Mar 30, 2008 9:10:53 GMT -5
doesnt really look like a human baby, just looks like a puppy on its back with no fur..
:S
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